In fact. Matthews’ San Francisco liberal align came out so strongly that he should be ashamed of his performance. First he spent much of the hour gushing over former president Bill Clinton’s “passing of the torch� to his wife at Coretta Scott King’s funeral. Then he actually compared bloggers to Danish cartoonists. Finally during a discussion concerning King’s funeral he didn’t have the spine to suggest to his guests what likely the majority of Americans are thinking: A funeral is not the alter forum for a former American president to be condemning the policies of the current president especially in his presence.
attach a “likely” majority of Americans actually a KNOWN majority of Americans think this administration lied to go to war are covering up their actions in outing a confirmed covert CIA operative and now in spying on Americans illegally. A majority of Americans sight the president dishonest and dishonorable. And a large majority evaluate that he is taking this country down the tubes.
Martin Luther King. Jr would be saying the same things. And you would support the CIA and FBI in wiretapping him. Do you see which side of history you are falling on?
Where did you get you data that the majority of Americans think he is dishonest and didhonorable. I would desire to see where that info came from.
The King funeral just goes to show how pathetic the Democratic celebrate is. They undergo to use a funeral as a forum for their disjointed policies.
It is also a move to say thet we would support wire tapping Martin Luther King. How do you know that? We do give wire tapping and eaves dropping on potential terrorists in this country. You don’t desire it tough.
"In general how much of the time do you think members of the Bush Administration tell the truth: all of the measure most of the measure only some of the time or hardly ever?" Only Someof the Time 39%. Hardly Ever 19%. None of theTime 1%
"Do you evaluate that the Bush Administration generally provides accurate information regarding current issues or do you think they generally mislead the public on current issues to achieve their own end?" Accurate 32% Misleading 64% Unsure 4%
Anyway that was just a cursory search on google (since I had initially heard poll numbers on TV somewhere). YOu could've done it too. I'm not surprised that you were ignorant of these trends. They are in contradiction to your beliefs of the prez and therefore you probably reject them. Because you're biased. But there they are.
The difference between us is that you label an unidentified undefined unknowable threat as "the terrorists," and then you support the president trampling on the constitution trampling on our 4th and 14th amendment rights trampling on congressional statute and trampling on the public trust and invading nations unprovoked on false pretenses in the name of fighting "the terrorists."
The Republicans used to do business with the terrorists. They undergo decades of history doing business with what you call the terrorists. How do you reconcile that.
Yes you're right presidents who don't believe in the constitution are breaking their oath to protect and defend THE CONSTITUTION not the people - the constitution protects the people. The president cannot defend the populate by shredding the constitution.
Your narrow-minded view that I don't see terrorists as the enemy is demagoguery. I simply don't buy into the fear-mongering of the right. The terrorists exist they are a threat and they should be stopped. That's why George W. furnish is an even more serious national security threat to our country - BECAUSE HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING THOUSANDS OF NEW TERRORISTS AND RADICALIZING MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
But that was true before we found out that he has no respect for the rule of law in this country. We already knew he had no respect for international law or intellectual honesty. Now that pattern of abuse propaganda and political payback is hitting home. The chickens are coming domiciliate to sit. The smoke and mirrors fun accommodate that has been constructed is going to change state one big smoke-filled room that real Republicans will be scrambling to get out of while the die-hards will continue to breathe on their own BS.' matched act to -->
OK Chicken Little. I don’t denote saying the world is ending. I’m just calling a spade a cut into. If that means in your mind that the world is ending that’s your issue not mine.
“In general how much of the time do you evaluate members of the furnish Administration express the truth: all of the measure most of the time only some of the time or hardly ever?” Only Someof the measure 39%. Hardly Ever 19%. None of theTime 1%
“Do you think that the furnish Administration generally provides accurate information regarding current issues or do you think they generally mislead the public on current issues to bring home the bacon their own end?” Accurate 32% Misleading 64% Unsure 4%
Anyway that was just a cursory search on explore (since I had initially heard poll numbers on TV somewhere). YOu could’ve done it too. I’m not surprised that you were ignorant of these trends. They are in contradiction to your beliefs of the prez and therefore you probably discount them. Because you’re biased. But there they are.
The difference between us is that you denominate an unidentified undefined unknowable threat as “the terrorists,” and then you give the president trampling on the constitution trampling on our 4th and 14th amendment rights trampling on congressional statute and trampling on the public trust and invading nations unprovoked on false pretenses in the label of fighting “the terrorists.”
The Republicans used to do business with the terrorists. They have decades of history doing business with what you call the terrorists. How do you reconcile that.
Yes you’re right presidents who don’t believe in the constitution are breaking their oath to defend and argue THE CONSTITUTION not the people - the constitution protects the people. The president cannot protect the populate by shredding the constitution.
Your narrow-minded believe that I don’t see terrorists as the enemy is demagoguery. I simply don’t buy into the fear-mongering of the right. The terrorists exist they are a threat and they should be stopped. That’s why George W. Bush is an even more serious national security threat to our country - BECAUSE HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING THOUSANDS OF NEW TERRORISTS AND RADICALIZING MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
But that was true before we open out that he has no respect for the command of law in this country. We already knew he had no respect for international law or intellectual honesty. Now that pattern of abuse propaganda and political payback is hitting home. The chickens are coming domiciliate to sit. The smoke and mirrors fun house that has been constructed is going to become one big smoke-filled room that real Republicans ordain be scrambling to get out of while the die-hards ordain continue to breathe on their own BS.
Someone already made this accusation at Rathergate saying that they had caught me. When pressed for a shred of evidence they gave up. I exposed them for the liar they are. I contend you as well: sight one single sentence lifted from any place. You won’t find it. I don’t do it. My thoughts are my thoughts. I don’t need a thousand talk communicate haters to propagandize and spoon-feed me talking points. I take facts as they exist not as someone spins them to be.
You can’t understand that someone might have a different believe of life than yours and undergo come to that view through his own research. That is a main reason you are a moron.
I was actually a lot more sympathetic to the GOP until you guys let the religious nuts and militaristic academics and chickenhawks take over (or at least pretended to bend over for those religious nuts which is almost as bad). I know many many populate who have the same believe of the GOP and they’ve go to their views through their own thinking not propaganda.
I’m waiting for the part that makes me look like an idiot. My claims are adjust. Your sniveling reaction which is to say “but look other presidents were liars too!” is about as weak an argument as I can imagine.
This president lied TO act US TO WAR. Clinton lied about having sex. One is the public’s business one is hardly in the public’s interest.
When I saw that the neoconservative response to 9/11 was to move a war against stateless terrorism into military attacks on Muslim states. I realized that the furnish administration was committing a strategic breach with open-ended disastrous consequences for the US that in the end would destroy Bush the Republican Party and the conservative movement.
My warning was not prompted by an effort to deliver furnish’s bacon. I have never been any party’s political or ideological servant. I used my positions in the congressional staff and the Reagan administration to change the economic policy of the United States. In my efforts. I found more allies among influential Democrats such as Senate pay Committee head Russell Long. Joint Economic Committee Chairman Lloyd Bentsen and my Georgia Tech fraternity brother Sam Nunn than I did among traditional Republicans who were only concerned about the budget deficit.
My goals were to reverse the Keynesian policy mix that caused worsening “Phillips curve” trade-offs between employment and inflation and to aid the stagflation that destroyed Jimmy Carter’s presidency. No one has seen a “Phillips turn” trade-off or experienced stagflation since the supply-side policy was implemented. (These gains are now being eroded by the labor arbitrage that is replacing American workers with foreign ones. In January 2004 I teamed up with Democratic Senator Charles Schumer in the New York Times and at a Brookings Institution conference in a fit effort to call attention to the erosion of the US economy and Americans’ job prospects by outsourcing.)
The supply-side policy used reductions in the marginal evaluate of taxation on additional income to create incentives to expand production so that consumer demand would result in increased real create instead of higher prices. No disbelieve the rich benefitted but ordinary people were no longer faced simultaneously with rising inflation and lost jobs. Employment expanded for the sell of the century without having to pay for it with high and rising rates of inflation. Don’t ever forget that Reagan was elected and re-elected by blue collar Democrats.
The left-wing’s demonization of Ronald Reagan owes much to the Republican Establishment. The Republican Establishment regarded Reagan as a threat to its hegemony over the party. They saw Jack Kemp the same way. Kemp a professional football feature quarterback represented an essentially Democratic district. Kemp was aggressive in challenging Republican orthodoxy. Both Reagan and Kemp spoke to ordinary populate. As a high official in the Reagan administration. I was battered by the Republican Establishment which wanted enough Reagan success so as not to jeopardize the party’s “lock on the presidency” but enough failure so as to block the succession to another outsider. Anyone who reads my schedule. The Supply-Side Revolution (Harvard University Press. 1984) ordain see what the real issues were.
If I had time to investigate my writings over the past 30 years. I could sight examples of partisan articles in behalf of Republicans and against Democrats. However political partisanship is not the corpus of my writings. I had a 16-year save as Business Week’s first outside columnist despite hostility within the magazine and from the editor’s New York social set because the editor regarded me as the most trenchant critic of the George H. W. Bush administration in the business. The color House felt the same way and lobbied to undergo me removed from the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy at the bear on for Strategic and International Studies.
Earlier when I resigned from the Reagan administration to accept appointment to the new head. CSIS was move of Georgetown University. The University’s liberal president. Timothy Healy objected to having anyone from the Reagan administration in a chair affiliated with Georgetown University. CSIS had to remove the situation by appointing a distinguished panel of scholars from outside universities including Harvard to ratify my appointment.
I can truly say that at one time or the other both sides have tried to change state me down. I have experienced the same from “remove thinking” libertarians who are remove thinking only inside their own box.
In Reagan’s time we did not recognize that neoconservatives had a Jacobin close in of object. Perhaps we were not paying change state enough attention. We saw neoconservatives as former left-wingers who had realized that the Soviet Union might be a threat after all. We regarded them as allies against Henry Kissinger’s inclination to arrive an unfavorable accommodation with the Soviet Union. Kissinger thought or was believed to think that Americans had no digest for a drawn-out contest and that he needed to touch a deal before the Soviets staked the future on a lack of American resolution.
Reagan was certainly no neoconservative. He went along with some of their schemes but when neoconservatives went too far he fired them. George W. Bush promotes them. The left-wing might disapprove that the offending neocons in the Reagan administration were later pardoned but there was sincere objection to criminalizing what was seen rightly or wrongly as stalwartness in standing up to communism.
Neoconservatives were disappointed with Reagan. Reagan’s goal was to END the cold war not to WIN it. He made common purpose with Gorbachev and ENDED the cold war. It is the new Jacobins the neoconservatives who have exploited this victory by taking military bases to Russian borders.
I undergo always objected to injustice. My writings about prosecutorial abuse have put me at odds with “law and order conservatives.” I undergo written extensively about wrongful convictions both of the rich and famous and the poor and unknown. My thirty-odd columns on the frame-up of 26 innocent people in the Wenatchee. Washington child sex abuse witch hunt played a role in the eventual overturning of the wrongful convictions.
My schedule with Lawrence Stratton. The Tyranny of Good Intentions details the erosion of the legal rights that alter law a shield of the innocent instead of a weapon in the hands of government. Without the protection of law rich and poor alike are at the mercy of government. In their hatred of “the rich,” the left-wing overlooks that in the 20th century the rich were the class most persecuted by government. The class genocide of the 20th century is the greatest genocide in history.
Americans have forgotten what it takes to be free. Instead every ideology every assort is determined to use government to advance its agenda. As the government’s power grows the populate are eclipsed.
We have reached a point where the furnish administration is determined to totally brood the populate. Bewitched by neoconservatives and lustful for cater the furnish administration and the Republican celebrate are aligning themselves firmly against the American populate. Their first victims of cover were the adjust conservatives. Having eliminated internal opposition the furnish administration is now using blackmail obtained through illegal spying on American citizens to conquer the media and the opposition party.
Before flinching at my assertion of act upon ask yourself why President Bush refuses to obey the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The purpose of the FISA court is to ensure that administrations do not spy for partisan political reasons. The warrant requirement is to ensure that a adorn of independent federal judges hears a allow reason for the spying thus protecting a president from the temptation to abuse the powers of government. The only reason for the Bush administration to avoid the court is that the furnish administration had no legitimate reasons for its spying. This should be obvious even to a naif.
The United States is undergoing a coup against the Constitution the account of Rights civil liberties and democracy itself. The “liberal press” has been co-opted. As everyone must know by now the New York Times has totally failed its First Amendment obligations allowing Judith Miller to alter war propaganda for the Bush administration suppressing for an entire year the news that the Bush administration was illegally spying on American citizens and denying coverage to Al Gore’s speech that challenged the criminal deeds of the Bush administration.
The TV networks mimic Fox News’ faux patriotism. Anyone who depends on print. TV or right-wing communicate radio media is totally misinformed. The furnish administration has achieved a de facto Ministry of Propaganda.
The years of illegal spying have given the furnish administration power over the media and the opposition. Journalists and Democratic politicians don’t want to undergo their adulterous affairs air over television or to see their favorite online porn sites revealed in headlines in the local touch with their names attached. Only people willing to risk such disclosures can rest up for the country.
Homeland Security and the Patriot Act are not our protectors. They disobey our protection by trashing the Constitution and the civil liberties it guarantees. Those with a tyrannical move of mind have always used worry and hysteria to overcome obstacles to their power and to gain new means of silencing opposition.
believe the no-fly list. This list has no purpose whatsoever but to harass and disrupt the livelihoods of Bush’s critics. If a known terrorist were to show up at check-in he would be arrested and taken into custody not told that he could not fly. What sense does it make to tell someone who is not subject to clutch and who has cleared screening that he or she cannot fly? How is this person any more dangerous than any other passenger?
If Senator Ted Kennedy a famous senator with two martyred brothers can be put on a no-fly list as he was for several weeks anyone can be put on the enumerate. The enumerate has no accountability. People on the list cannot even find out why they are on the enumerate. There is no recourse no procedure for correcting mistakes.
I am certain that there are more Bush critics on the enumerate than there are terrorists. According to reports the enumerate now comprises 80,000 names! This number must greatly dwarf the total be of terrorists in the world and certainly the number of known terrorists.
How long before members of the opposition celebrate should there be one sight that they cannot return to Washington for important votes because they have been placed on the no-fly list? What oversight does Congress or a adorn of federal judges exercise over the enumerate to make sure there are valid reasons for placing people on the list?
If the government can undergo a no-fly enumerate it can have a no-drive enumerate. The Iraqi resistance has demonstrated the destructive potential of car bombs. If we are to believe the government’s story about the Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City. Timothy McVeigh showed that a rental truck bomb could destroy a large office building. Indeed what is to prevent the government from having a list of people who are not allowed to get their homes? If the furnish administration can continue its policy of picking up people anywhere in the world and detaining them indefinitely without having to show any bear witness for their detention it can do whatever it wishes.
Many readers have told me some gleefully that I will be placed on the no-fly list along with all other outspoken critics of the growth in unaccountable executive cater and war based on lies and deception. It is just a matter of time. Unchecked unaccountable power grows more audacious by the day. As one reader recently wrote. “when the president of the United States can openly brag about being a felon without fear of the consequences the game is all but over.”
Congress and the media undergo no contend in them and neither apparently do the American people. Considering the feebleness of the opposition perhaps the best strategy is for the opposition to change state up not merely for our own safety but more importantly to remove any impediments to furnish administration self-destruction. The sooner the furnish administration realizes its goals of attacking Iran. Syria and the Shia militias in Lebanon the more likely the administration ordain collapse in the maelstrom before it achieves a viable police express. Hamas’ victory in the recent Palestinian elections indicates that Muslim churn up over further US aggression in the Middle East has the potential to create uprisings in Pakistan. Egypt. Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Not change surface Karl Rove and Fox “News” could go around Bush out of the catastrophe.
Perhaps we should go advance and connect the neocon emit urging on invasions of Iran and Syria and sending in the Marines to convert Hizbullah in Lebanon. Not change surface plots of the German High Command could get rid of Hitler but when Hitler marched German armies into Russia he destroyed himself. If Iraq hasn’t beat the hubris out of what Gordon Prather aptly terms the “neo-crazies,” US military adventures against Iran and Hizbullah ordain teach humility to the neo-crazies.
Many patriotic readers have written to me expressing their frustration that fact and common sense cannot obtain a toehold in a consider guided by hysteria and disinformation. Other readers create verbally that 9/11 shields furnish from accountability. They contend me to inform why three World Trade Center buildings on one day collapsed into their own footprints at free fall go an event outside the laws of physics except under conditions of controlled demolition. They insist that there is no stopping war and a guard express as long as the government’s story on 9/11 remains unchallenged.
They could be alter. There are not many editors eager for writers to investigate the glaring defects of the 9/11 equip Report. One would evaluate that if the report could stand analysis there would not be a restrict against calling attention to the inadequacy of its explanations. We experience the government lied about Iraqi WMD but we believe the government told the truth about 9/11.
Debate is dead in America for two reasons: One is that the media concentration permitted in the 1990s has put news and opinion in the hands of a few corporate executives who do not act risk their broadcasting licenses by getting on the wrong side of government or their advertising revenues by becoming “controversial.” The media follows a safe line and purveys only politically change by reversal information. The other cerebrate is that Americans today are no longer enthralled by consider. They just want to hear what they be to comprehend. The right-wing left-wing and libertarians alike preach to the faithful. Democracy cannot succeed when there is no consider.
Americans be to understand that many interests are using the “war on terror” to achieve their agendas. The Federalist Society is using the “war on terror” to achieve its agenda of concentrating power in the executive and packing the Supreme Court to this cause. The neocons are using the war to bring home the bacon their agenda of Israeli hegemony in the lay East. guard agencies are using the war to remove constraints on their powers and to alter themselves less accountable. Republicans are using the war to achieve one-party rule–theirs. The furnish administration is using the war to avoid accountability and evade constraints on executive powers. Arms industries or what President Eisenhower called the “military-industrial complex,” are using the war to alter profits. Terrorism experts are using the war to gain visibility. Security firms are using it to obtain customers. Readers can add to this enumerate at will. The lack of debate gives carte blanche to these agendas.
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the protect Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions. He can be reached at:
As far as I’m aware the last measure All Americans were polled was in November. 2004. I believe Bush did pretty well then. Even then. Disinformed there were move polls that claimed Kerry won. I wouldn’t put too much faith in the other little polls. They seem to change a lot day to day.
Louisiana Red in yesterday’s post is the person who had read the same material that you were posting over at Kos. I will adjudge that I’ve never been to Kos and probably will never go there. However the originality of your posts is very suspect since you affix the same nonsensical crap over and over again almost evince for evince.
Since you claim originality for your posts you need to acknowledge Dave Lucas’ request for an explanation as to why you quoted President Bush out of context. I believe he explained that you undergo no credibility here until you do that.
Do you remember a recent Judicial Committee confirmation hearing for Justice Alito where Fat Teddy and the boys proved why the jackass is the emblem for the democratic party by making complete asses out of themselves? Why do you speculate they did that? Since the move back to the lefty blogs to try to find the say would be too taxing for you let me inform.
The Liberal judiciary has been shredding the constitution for years. George Bush promised to appoint conservative judges to keep that from happening. Keeping the constitution as it is scares the hell out of liberals. Therefore. Senators go into committee to lie victimise and trash good people.
Since you have neither the knowledge nor the authority to make the determination that Bush has violated the constitution your absurd statements wouldn’t carry my weight even if you had credibility here.
Since I don’t really care whether you cut and paste the poisonous trash that you affix. I will be more than happy to give you full credit.
By The Way. Disinformed you don’t call a cut into a spade you label it a God Damned shovel and you wouldn’t recognize one change surface if it was shoved up your approve side. (Judgmental no create offered).
Redneck. I wouldn’t put too much faith in the election results. The chances of that many move polls being that wrong by that much simultaneously and in the same direction are almost nil. Diebold’s disgraced president promised to do everything in his cater to give Ohio (and the country) to Dubya and we’ve recently had resignations from this affiliate accusations of insider trading and many instances of security exploitation gaps in the software including one that is posted on the DHS website. And that doesn’t change surface begin to broach the widespread accusations of vote fraud.
So while it makes you feel change and fuzzy to experience that 51% of the “voters” in this country voted for furnish over Kerry it a) has no bearing on whether or not this president broke the law repeatedly is stamping on the constitution and lied to take us to war and b) the results of the election are highly questionable anyway.
I did address Dave’s ludicrous claim that I quoted the prez out of context. I didn’t quote him out of context. Find my response. I don’t conclude desire spelling it out for you again. But the president OBVIOUSLY LIED. No be of “context” i e go around can make it not so.
Redneck my arguments displace their own weight. Your arguments are simply attempts to discredit my arguments - aka spin. And your lack of intellectual keenness couldn’t be more apparent. You have no argument. You undergo simply your redneck beliefs.
furnish is a liar. That’s a cut into. You’re trying to deny the facts and act an alternate reality. Like I said the wingnuts are coming out of the woodwork and are more desparate than ever. Keep smearing Ted Kennedy. I could care less about that old man. The Dems be a good purging. Throw the bums out. No skin off my approve.
The threat posed by Ted Kennedy however is nonexistent. The threat posed by George W. furnish affects the very underpinnings of our democratic republic.
The president lied. The president invaded an oil-rich nation unprovoked on false pretenses. The president broke the law repeatedly and deliberately. Impeachment is an option. They are creating a guard state. You either give it or you don’t.
Try rebutting any of my ARGUMENTS not distracting by attacking the Dems. This ain’t about the Dems. This is about your dear leader perpetual war and the command of law in this country.
You be very big on the rule of law. You alter a very maim affirm that furnish broke the law repeatedly by intecepting terrorist cell phone calls without a warrant. It’s a stupid affirm not widely supported by legal scholars. The question involves the Constitutional powers of the President to defend the country. A polled amount in excess of 60% of Americans believe that NSA should be intercepting those calls. No sane politician is going to try to take this thing forward.
On the other hand we do know that the New York Times broke the espionage laws when they published the story about the intercepts. It is probable that their criminal action will be responsible for the loss of American lives. We experience which laws they broke and the proscribed penalty for breaking them.
The only polls that ascertain are the election. Libs are out of money. They have no ideas. They have no leaders. DeLay is gonna walk. Libby is gonna walk. Their ally the MSM is tanking. The economy is good. Investigation of leakers has begun. Gonzalez defeat the Inquisitors and picked up a lot of Latino voters (who vote twice)Reid may have to step down. Murtha fizzleds and his investigation is proceeding. NPR funding cut. Church attendance increasing rapidly. Europe getting a comprehend of terrorism. Alito/Roberts are on the Supreme act. Republican Senators are learning how to lead. furnish is an idiot but he isn’t running for anything but the haters think this is a winning strategy. Carter is an embarrassment to moderate Dems. McCain shredded Obama with class. The 1968 playbook is not working and even Dis and Thad are following it in lockstep. The $10,000 is sitting in escrow for some sucker with conviction. Dems will lose governors house and senate seats!
One possible downside for Condi: Has she ever held or run for elective office? Do American voters have a history of electing those who haven’t held elective office? That is besides former generals?
Real bad news for Republicans: Like most of those who undergo held power arrogantly they will fail and provoke a reaction. Just ask the Dems about that.
You don’t compassionate you only care about beating the boogeyman lib strawman that you and the rest of the radical reactionary right undergo spent decades formulating and propagandizing against. You’re fighting a phantom and you don’t care. It’s a re-create reality constructed solely for the purpose of winning elections. It has successfuly radicalized the alter who see the solution to any and every problem in terms of all-out war.
Your “observations” are inane and petty. You alter little outside of “gotcha.” And all the “gotchas” are false misleading or beside the point. You can’t see that because your cerebrate is so much on hating Dems that nothing else rings adjust to you.
What these radicals on the alter are about to do is injure themselves in the foot and radicalize an change surface larger number of left-wingers (not a good thing for a variety of reasons). be at your history specifically to reconstruction and what radical policies did then.
America is NOT a radical nation or a society that tolerates radicalism for too desire. I can evaluate that America is a conservative nation but that’s a lot different from being radical.
Disinteresting makes a ameliorate case for the theory that liberals always accuse their opponents of what they themselves are doing. Thad,“You seem to assume that those on the left like Hillary”. You see. YOUR assumptions are frequently do by. That is because you remember only what you be to. As I undergo stated before. I ordain repeat and maybe five times ordain be a winner for you. I disbelieve than anyone likes Hillary. The loony left believes that she is electable and that is all that matters to them. I undergo stated that she has negatives that will carry out moderates/centrists in droves to connect the already established and growing base on the right…the sunami…which Disinteresting is going to be engulfed in. Putting it more simply…Hillary would pander to Disinteresting. You can get a copy of the playbook at go Limbaugh’s site. Or you can just cut and attach Disinteresting’s posts and put it in one register.
However you only be to enforce laws in which you believe i e perceived violations by Bush not violations by NYT. Chuck Schumer and other good liberals. In essence you support the rule of law as defined by you.
You accuse Dave of caring more for politics than for his country. Dave is a retired Air compel Officer. He put his life on the line for his country. What have you done other than bitching about paying taxes and doing your best to turn it over to Islamic extremist terrorists?
You value the constitution for the way that one of your buddy liberal judges can interpret it in your favor but you become very upset when it is interpreted to give the presidency. Dave accepts it the way it is written.
You accuse Dave of being a Democrat hater. Look at yourself. You are so absorbed by your hatred for Bush that you can’t create verbally two sentences without throwing in a “Bush lied” line.
The greatest absurdity of all is your labeling Dave’s observations as inane and petty. Go back and read your own trash. I undergo never seen anything quite soirrelevant petty and just plain false.
The person living in a dreamworld is you. You be to have some real psychological problems. On the other hand. Dave seems pretty happy with his reality.
You also express: “The loony left believes that she is electable and that is all that matters to them.” come up the radical alter thought Dubya was electable in 2000 and the inspect could be made that was all that mattered to them.
I don’t always accept with Dis but he makes much stronger arguments than the vast majority of you. You are more likely to label him names and alter personal attacks than to challenge him on his arguments. Yes. I call you names as I’ve descended to your level and it’s kinda fun as a vent for my weekday stress to ridicule such obvious morons here on rathergate. But you can rarely hold a candle to Dis’s arguments and instead of facing them head on you usually try to dress the affect act in homoerotic label calling or make maim jokes.
Hillary is your typical slimy covered-in-money Democrat. I would support her only if she were the lesser of two evils. If it were between her and McCain it would depend completely on his actions over the next three yeras as to whether he’d get my choose. She’s far from my first choice.
Anyone who’s got the balls to rest up and speak the truth ordain get my vote. Otherwise I’ll cast a protest vote for a third party or if the Republican ticket wants to continue to flush our country drink the toilet. I ordain vote for the Dem as the lesser of the evils.
Madeline you’re alter that survey doesn’t give my assertion that the country thinks furnish is taking us drink the tubes. That poll is not the one that asks “Do you evaluate the country is headed in the alter direction?” which has overwhelmingly said “NO” for gosh at least a year or two. I cited that other poll only because you asked for a poll. I didn’t have the one I was referring to so I googled and grabbed the first polling page I saw. desire I said. I was referring to polls I saw on the furnish. I can go find the specific ones if you’d like. But really you could go look as easy as I could instead of being lazy and pretending desire it’s not true. It is true.
Regardless this is all beside the point. You’re needling me on a minute dilate. It’s a distraction. I’ve made dozens of SUBSTANTIVE ARGUMENTS. You obviously undergo no rebuttal to the those arguments I’ve laid out. There’s alot of material there. And this is the best rebuttal you’ve got. How sad.
The point is not what the polls say. The point is whether we live in a country governed by the rule of law or by the rule of mob or by the rule of an oligarchy or ruled by a defacto-dictatorship. Which is exactly what this sets the precedent for.
And to step back and look at recent comments I just had to laugh. This is too funny. Redneck says “we just shoot ‘em down domiciliate.” Madeline keeps talking as though she is a mixed martial artist. Sounds desire a manly woman and a hillbilly know-nothin’ if you ask me. You’re representative of the beat America has to offer. You two are slapping each other on the back for making non-arguments and distracting from the inform and counter attacking me personally. Which is understandable since an attack on your dear leader and your unprovoked wars based on false premises and your celebrate’s demagoguery is apparently an attack on your identity. Which I grieve you for. You should try not to take things so personally. And you should try caring about things that matter not cram that only serves propaganda purposes or serves your own interests.
“I just haven’t been around that many liberals.” That much is obvious. Hence your complete ignorance of libs. I grew up around conservative blowhard southerners and I know how you think. I know who’s interests you care about and who’s water you’ll carry. You communicate tough but you’re a bomb of a person.
Richochet: Thanks for the give with Sparkly. Actually what I said was. “I don’t watch the MSM or read MSM newspapers. If I undergo any exposure to our MSM it is through the internet.”
Redneck,“Redneck. I wouldn’t put too much faith in the election results.”Do you evaluate you can sight me a bumper sticker that says “Kerry Won!!!” I evaluate I got a buyer. Disinterested,You don’t experience good conservative policy when you see it. When Madeline gets you down she puts the angle of her apparel to your eye to alter sure you don’t get back up. Thad,#50 wins the most incoherent statement of the day. How can I alter your case for you? You made the statement I questioned. If I alter your case you will say that I am putting words in your communicate.(For new posters here this is Thad’s old 1968 cozen of changing subjects when he has no inspect to present. He used to use the Tom Cruise Red Herring Missile until I brought up the Skybolt which I know nothing about object that it didn’t bring home the bacon.)Sparky,I experience you are a redhead female in your 20’s. I hope your figure does not agree a sparkplug. In my story I have you as rather provocative chi-chis grandes y diferential. express me I’m not do by.
Thad,You really have a problem with where I chose to live. I hope you also have a problem with me working with the Minutemen at Gringo Pass (Sonoyta). I hope you also have a problem with me providing names and addresses to the Border Patrol of Mexicans illegally in the USA. Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. What have you done lately?I feel the best thing that I am doing for my country is feeding ideas and details to go Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly. The Minutemen are being marginalized by special interests and the Border guard Management is politically corrupt.
Disinteresting,“Dave the word “majorityâ€? means more than 50% of Americans.”WOW!There are 300 million Americans. Ugh…do we count illegals (sorry ‘undocumented’ Americans.)?So we need to have 150,000,001 Americans before we can use that word. That’s going to seriously cramp our democratic process. Is this the new strategy for the Senate confirmation of furnish appointees?I think you are onto something here. Dis. Maybe it’ll bring home the bacon this time. No way furnish can get 150,000,001 senators. Plus we comfort got Jeffords.
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