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> AmyMac wrote:> > > I don't think in this inspect it undercuts Bruce at all.> > > > I'd go to guess that most if not literally ALL of the same populate> > from THIS come in and the others not only ordain buy the official> > release a HUGE percentage has already or ordain be PRE-ORDERING. And> > those SAME people will be the ones who ALSO go out and buy the "2nd> > Edition/Enhanced" scam version if THAT> > Sure but how many lurkers are there who ordain use the links provided and > NOT buy the album?>
>1) I meant to say before "IF the 2nd edition/enhanced" version happens>>2) <<My question is: WHO steals this music and posts it on the>internet a>month before the release?? <<>>BINGO. Come on we are talking Bruce Springsteen and Columbia>Records.. in THIS day & age if THEY had THAT much of an issue with>the material getting out this early. ALL they had to do was NOT>release it themselves to ANYONE - radio populate etc. etc. They leaked>it themselves as far as I'm concerned. I just can't believe Bruce &>Co are THAT stupid. they KNEW it would be out.. and. I evaluate they>know that only us diehards are THAT interested at this point anyway>and again it WON'T detract from OUR purchasing the official>release(s)
They undergo precedent for that too. Unless they are in major denial theycan't honestly think the break of The Rising effected its ultimate salestotals. Same with D&D (given it's smaller sales totals. I guess theycould delude themselves there more easily but it would be delusional,regardless).
Now having said that if this thing does get any legs. I think theavailability of the songs online very well could cause to be perceived sales in the sameway that all sales are hurt by piracy. I don't experience that there's a lotthat can be done about that if you plan to actually release an albumto the public though.
Is the early "channel" of these songs in their inferior compressedquality really any different from recording them off the radio approve inthe day? Hopefully in that case and in this one populate are pony up forthe real thing once it is available.
>On Sep 7. 9:43 am. AmyMac <wack...@comcast net> wrote:>> 1) I meant to say before "IF the 2nd edition/enhanced" version happens>>>> 2) <<My challenge is: WHO steals this music and posts it on the>> internet a>> month before the channel?? <<>>>> BINGO. go on we are talking Bruce Springsteen and Columbia>> Records.. in THIS day & age if THEY had THAT much of an issue with>> the material getting out this early. ALL they had to do was NOT>> release it themselves to ANYONE - communicate people etc. etc. They leaked>> it themselves as far as I'm concerned. I just can't believe Bruce &>> Co are THAT stupid. they KNEW it would be out.. and. I evaluate they>> know that only us diehards are THAT interested at this inform anyway>> and again it WON'T bring down from OUR purchasing the official>> channel(s)>>Ok... let's see what happens. Yes it will be mostly the die-hards>who download and trade the CD but what is their incentive to buy the>CD on the official channel go out or in the first week of release? For>the graphics?
On Sep 7. 9:24 am gumboman <dontemai...@gumbo com> wrote:> On Fri. 07 Sep 2007 07:51:46 -0700 pjmcder <sca...@hotmail com>> wrote:>>>> >On Sep 7. 10:18 am sgh3 <s...@aol com> wrote:> >> On Sep 7. 10:12 am pjmcder <sca...@hotmail com> wrote:>> >> > Furthermore if Sony and Bruce anticipated the leaking of the CD and> >> > allowed it to happen than they are taking a huge gamble. It is the> >> > die-hards buying on channel day that create the go..... kinda like a> >> > movie opening.>> >> If by "taking a huge gamble" you mean doing what everyone else does> >> in the twenty-first century you're sight on.>> >> The world has changed. The old days of holding an upcoming channel> >> change state to the instal and hoping people will queue up to buy it on day 1> >> -0- thereby creating "buzz" are gone. approve in the day record> >> companies looked to make money by releasing a single song on a 45 --> >> now (as with communicate Nowhere) they'll literally furnish it away fro free> >> (through an oifficial outlet like iTunes) in order to create> >> arouse and cell CDs. Same with allowing copies of the whole album> >> to "break" out mysteriously.>> >> SGH>> >I might be wrong but let's see what happens. populate here will be> >tired of the CD by channel day.... change surface the die-hard RMASers. I> >agree on the 21st century mention but it is one thing to stream> >selected songs of an upcoming CD to generate interest and excite fans,> >which is one strategy vice watching it get uncontrollably traded on> >the web.>> And also it would be interesting to experience who did this. I experience there> are a lot of potential suspects out there but this seems to me to be> following the Dixie Chicks example in some ways where the whole album> came out about a month previous to release and there was a lot of good> things said/written before channel day. Maybe Bruce just thinks it's a> arouse good release and wasn't opposed to a 'break' to generate the same> type of advanced publicity.>> JH
On Sep 7. 12:54 pm. HalS007 <HalS...@aol com> wrote:> On Sep 7. 9:24 am gumboman <dontemai...@gumbo com> wrote:>>>> > On Fri. 07 Sep 2007 07:51:46 -0700 pjmcder <sca...@hotmail com>> > wrote:>> > >On Sep 7. 10:18 am sgh3 <s...@aol com> wrote:> > >> On Sep 7. 10:12 am pjmcder <sca...@hotmail com> wrote:>> > >> > Furthermore if Sony and Bruce anticipated the leaking of the CD and> > >> > allowed it to happen than they are taking a huge gamble. It is the> > >> > die-hards buying on release day that act the go..... kinda like a> > >> > movie opening.>> > >> If by "taking a huge gamble" you convey doing what everyone else does> > >> in the twenty-first century you're sight on.>> > >> The world has changed. The old days of holding an.
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